The Heimish V Orginizatzia hashgochas-
One of the items that makes everyone wonder is that the major kosher certifiers require by foodservice operations among some others, a full time qualified trained mashgiach. Yet the Heimish relies on the "baal'abuss" (remember Monsey?).
Why are the Organizational certifiers accepting that, even co-certifying with them?
The Heimish don't care about the Consumer (not yet), the Organizational ones do care about the opinion of the consumer.
The Heimish are slowly but surely accepting cart-blanche most ingredients from the Major certifiers "as the need arises" a $ha$-had'chak matzav I gues$.

5 comments:
If heimishe hashgochos allow their products to hide dates & stick labels on regular OU stuff (usually above the barcode & date). Which results in stale ransid & sometimes rotten & vermin(worms) in their products. How could we trust the company & rabbonim in Kashrus.
With the OU there is generaly a date, but sometimes they are maikel in Snapir vekaskeses, bishul akum even for ashkenazim, pas akum, cholov akum & glatt Bet yosef, albeit with heteirim which exsist, butnot all agree & many are machmir.
Other than taht they are very good.If you know your products they may be the most reliable kosher supervisor.
It is sad to hear that they seem to allow co-certification with many hemishe hashgochos. Some of them are anyway relabled OU stuff anyway, but dates are now gone.
I hope they change to only allow co-certification on products they already certify where dates were not covered removed or adulterated, & products which meet their hashgocho standard.
We used to only rely on a heimishe hashgocho if it also had an OU, it sounds like it may not help anymore.
Please enlighten us.
http://theantitzemach.blogspot.com/2012/08/2-posts.html
Here's an OU story to have a field day with
a rov told me that the nationals are NOT blindly relying on the heimishe who are known for taking shortcuts or being unreliable. they do their own checking up but where do they draw the line to start blindly trusting? ?
Yudel I guess the KCL is a Heimish Hashgocha then!!
Lakewoods KCL was never meant to be a reliable hashgocha in lakewood. It was formed so another kosher certifier that was on the OUTS with the powers to be, so KCL was created.
There is famous saying;
An entity that was created for non legitimate purposes can only produce an iligitmate off spring.
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