I'm writing to you with a question that has been bothering me for a while. Recently this phenomenon is becoming more popular here in Flatbush (maybe Lakewood as well). Popular non-Jewish brands (all from different companies) - mainly Twizzlers, Fruit by the Foot, Gushers, Mike and Ikes and others as well are affixed with a pink, green, etc "hechsher sticker" (usually a chassideshe hechsher) atop of the regular packaging. What is going on here? Are there actually chassidishe mashgichim in the candy factories besides for OU mashgichgim? I don't fall for these "special runs". It feels like they (the pink sticker proprietors) are just trying to get their product in "heimeshe" supermarkets. Do you have an explanation?
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Do the Chasidishe Mashgichim all read & understand the ingredients, process, etc as good or better than the OU Mashgichim?
Ask Shufrah, J&R produce, Paskesz, Liebers, etc among the many others.
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http://www.lakewood246.com/news/16403/yeshiva-yishrei-lev-8th-grade-grand-siyum-on-maseches-makos.html
Shame on on Lakewood's Yeshiva "Yishrei" Lev and the blog Lakewood 24/6 for being mechabed someone as the "mashgiach" of Ner Yisroel when he was removed from his shteller and rabbonim tell people to keep their children away from him.
Unless it's someone not serious like the Yuka Ruv, why is it so shver to do a special production run and know the ingredients?
What does chasidus have to do with honesty? A yeros shamaim has no "mold".
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/09/23/nyregion/23lopez.html
The shutef of the Agudah to sabotage laws that protect children from abusers, Brooklyn Democrat leader Vito Lopez ymach shmoy, is under 2 Federal & 1 City investigations.
Whats shver? He protected gelbwax as well. and so does RAMK. Just make sure to vote for whomever they tell you to vote for. Be a good Jew and listen to das Torah.
I really fail to understand the letter written by Rabbi Fishbane of cRc & AKO about ethics responsibilities of hashgochos.
Is Rabbi Fishbane serious? He alludes to a cRc certified company charged with criminal offenses and says if they are convicted he will only "consider" dropping them.
http://www.chicagobreakingnews.com/2010/03/pet-food-firm-owners-accused-of-stealing-2m-in-eletricity-gas.html
Read here how serious the charges are.
http://dogblog.dogster.com/2009/06/15/fda-suspends-evangers-emergency-permit/
They were also caught shipping food with deadly botulism.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lvQfMk6bqfY
And they are making the cRc a laughing stock with this embarrassing "Pesach seder" for dogs that they put on.
Rabbi Fishbane goes on to attack food ethics groups for not apologizing now that Sholom Rubashkin has been "exonerated". Rubashkin has not been exonerated whatsoever. It's scary that someone who distorts facts is not only in charge of a regional hashgocho but also heads the AKO umbrella org.
Rabbi Fishbane contradicts himself. At the same time he says he is not trained to check ethical violations and that he is "not a detective" while also saying he does a better job finding ethical violations than groups that are dedicated to it.
We went to one of those Chol Hamoed events supervised by Chabad. The shaliach in charge named his little boy Menachem Mendel. I guess that is a siman that he agrees the Rebbe was niftar? In any case, I checked out the food before eating. It was being cooked by frum non-Chabadniks and I was pleasantly surprised, even shocked, that it was Meal Mart. I thought that the shnit in Lubavitch that doesn't trust Rubashkin is at least importing Lubavitch shechita from Montreal.
http://www.manta.com/c/mm0nngm/locker-caterers
I'm invited to a simcha catered by Locker from Lakewood. What's the hashgocho and kashrus standards?
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/09/28/business/28pom.html?hp
Federal regulators filed complaints on Monday against the makers of Pom Wonderful Pomegranate Juice, saying that there was no science to support claims that the products treat or prevent diseases like prostate cancer and erectile dysfunction.
The Federal Trade Commission said that Pom Wonderful, its parent company the Roll International Corporation, its creators and an executive violated federal law by making false and deceptive claims about disease prevention and treatment.
The agency’s complaint named the president of Pom Wonderful, Matthew Tupper, and the company founders Stewart and Lynda Resnick, a billionaire California couple whose holdings include the florist retailer Teleflora, Fiji Water and companies that produce Wonderful Pistachios and Cuties clementines.
PomWonderful is seen as starting the Pomegranate craze that has spread to everything from tea to smoothies, hitting ice cream, martinis and salad dressings on the way. The company’s health claims are a hallmark of its advertising.
Regulators said the ads were misleading in saying the research shows the juice or related Pomegranate supplements prevent or treat certain diseases.
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/09/27/us/27stinkbug.html?pagewanted=print
Damage to fruit and vegetable crops from stink bugs in Middle Atlantic states has reached critical levels, according to a government report. That is in addition to the headaches the bugs are giving homeowners who cannot keep them out of their living rooms — especially the people who unwittingly step on them. When stink bugs are crushed or become irritated, they emit a pungent odor that is sometimes described as skunklike.
Farmers in Maryland, New Jersey, Pennsylvania and other states are battling a pest whose appetite has left dry boreholes in everything from apples and grapes to tomatoes and soybeans.
http://www.nytimes.com/imagepages/2010/09/27/us/STINKBUG-1.html
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http://www.dispatch.com/live/content/local_news/stories/2010/09/09/kosher-caterer-loses-vaad-approval-as-high-holidays-start.html?sid=101
Starting today, Catering by Chani can no longer claim the kosher certification of the Vaad Ho-ir of Columbus
The split apparently came out of a dispute between owner Chani Capland and the Vaad over the amount of supervision required.
The Vaad wanted a supervisor on site whenever staff members at Catering by Chani were preparing food, and Capland did not agree to that, said Rabbi Howard Zack of Congregation Torat Emet, an officer of the Vaad.
The Vaad's standards have recently become stricter, he added.
Capland, busy working at her store yesterday, declined to comment beyond a letter she distributed to customers. Her husband, Rabbi Chaim Capland, also declined to speak.
In 2007, Columbus Public Health closed the business for six days after finding improper cleaning of food and preparation surfaces and other violations.
http://www.dispatch.com/live/content/local_news/stories/2007/12/02/Bingo.ART_ART_12-02-07_A1_5R8KK3M.html?sid=101
Rabbi Chaim Capland leads the synagogue, which holds services in the back of the catering business owned by his wife, Chani, at 2942 E. Broad St. He left the Schottenstein Chabad House at Ohio State University in 1995 after his second arrest for soliciting prostitutes. He was convicted of both misdemeanor offenses.
Michael Broidy, a member of the board of trustees of the Schottenstein Chabad House, said Capland is not affiliated with OSU's Chabad or the international organization, although the sign in front of Capland's synagogue says Chabad Torah Center.
http://www.lenehan.org/McGreevey%20reprint.pdf
This story in the Bergen Record is not new but is not widely known. Type Genack into the search.
The OU's Rabbi Menachem Genack who is a Touro College trustee refuses to answer questions if he personally knew Golan Cipel from the McGreevey faygelle scandal and if he had something to do with getting him on the Touro payroll.
We all know that one hand washes the other, but some of the hands involved here are really filthy.
What is wrong with some of the chassidisher out there?
Here is what I observed at a Chol Hamoed carnival. There are rides where young kids of 3 or 4 years old need to ride together with a buddy. There are chassidisher who seemingly do not want their kids riding with the litvisher. Are they afraid we will be metamei them? I can even understand if it is boys who look very different but I am talking about girls who are dressed tzniusdik to the point where it is difficult to tell which girls are chassidisher and which girls are litvisher. Almost every time we found a single chassidisher girl to pair with our daughter, the parents tried to get her away and we had to wait until another litvisher girl lined up that was the odd number girl out. The only time that some of these chassidisher agreed and even came running to chapp arein with our daughter was for a ride that seats 3 girls that we already paid for without an attendant collecting tickets which means whoever we invited got to ride for free. So the ausnutzer hypocrites come running if there is a freebee.
c'mon Yudel, we both know that heimishe hashgachos standards are way better than ou star-k OK! No one ever said they don't have there own problems, but on some complicated nosh its day and night.
Why should a Queens Vaad restaurant be allowed to set up the sukkah for customers in the back alleyway next to the ashpah where it stinks and is assur to make a brocho? Another possible issue is if there is no reshus from the landlord to plop a sukkah down that obstructs access for the cars of other tenants in any way. It would be assur to make a brocho there altz gezulah.
And the "cholov Yisroel" Vaad restaurant is STILL selling "Skinny Cow" ice cream bars that are not cholov Yisroel.
Heimishe manufacturers are safer because they almost never have a mislabeling issue.
Is any more proof needed that Avi Weiss and his "Yeshivat Chovavei Torah" are not orthodox?
http://www.jewishtimes.com/index.php/jewishtimes/news/jt/cover_story/a_green_jewish_world_life_at_kayam_farm/20829
At Kayam Farm in Reisterstown MD, a division of Pearlstone Conference Center (but not under Star K like Pearlstone is), there is a "kollel" led by Rabbi Gabe Greenberg from YCT that includes Reform women "rabbis" who are shechting goats.
Greenberg is also a "compliance officer" for Uri Letzedek's "Tav Hayosher", an "ethical" hashgocho on food, which is also affiliated with Avi Weiss.
http://www.agra-net.com/portal2/home.jsp?template=newsarticle&artid=20017811592&pubid=ag002
British vets are calling on companies to limit their use of halal and kosher meat after an investigation revealed that large volumes of meat from animals not stunned before slaughter are entering the mainstream food chain.
Responding to the Mail on Sunday investigation, the British Veterinary Association (BVA) said it is writing to the companies involved to express its concern that the use of this meat in the wider food chain will lead to an 'increase in unnecessary suffering'.
..So the ausnutzer hypocrites come running if there is a freebee...
We all thought that only the queens hisachdis people are ausnutsers! Now you tell me me there are others too??
Can't be true.
Hisachdis Qveens? Dee meinst Satmar in Bayswater?
Call me and I tell you the scoop on all hashgooches (that don't pay me off)
Call me if you want to hear the REAL scoop, dehaynu which brands get placement by Queens Vaad stores because there is some mezuman being kicked back unter der tisch. A good smokescreen to defend ourselves is to falsely accuse VHQ critics of being on the take. Like it really makes sense that any guy who speaks up against a hashgocho can just squeeze money out of people - not. But hopefully we can convince a few people if Rabbeinu Chaim Schwartz vechasidav repeat it enough.
Ahey Chosid!
You forgot to leave 'ah groise pidyen far ah groise yeshiah' that you need.
Ahey Misnaged! you forgot to leave your mother's name so that we can make a me shebeirach for you.
http://web.mit.edu/hillel/www/kosher-dining.shtml
Schwartz should have stuck around at KVH who just hit the big time with kosher dining at MIT. Now he's with the shleppers at Queens College.
chasidisher hashgochos policy is that every production should have a mashgiach temidi , for all that don't know alot of problems are avoided because of that.
Anon 8:14, you are making a gross generalization. While what you are saying is the propaganda that many "heimieshe" kashrus agencies would want us to believe, it is not necessarily accurate. Not EVERY "heimeshe" kashrus agency requires a mashgiach, secondly not every "heimeshe" requires by every TYPE of production. Last of all, there are many different components to different items ie coloring, flavoring, release agents, and so on and so forth. We certainly can be assured that even IF the heimieshe RAV hamacshir checks out the source of supply, there was no mashgiach on site for all the production of all of the numerous components that are in the end product that you are purchasing.
PS. I am still waiting for the kol koreh against using oxtails
They don't have full time hashgocha at all of their productions. Part of a coversation with a Heimishe Rav Hamachshir. "so is it bishul yisroel? well it's a few day production, like 3 days. So the mashgiach turns the boiler on and seals it, and he leaves. At the end of the 3 day production he could come back to see if it's sealed-It's realy a kosher company under an Orginization hashgocha".
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